Swimming Upstream: “David Wilkerson’s Prophecy”

David Wilkerson, pastor of Times Square Church, author of The Cross and The Switchblade and founder of Teen Challenge, declared in an urgent message on March 7, 2009:

AN EARTH-SHATTERING CALAMITY IS ABOUT TO HAPPEN. IT IS GOING TO BE SO FRIGHTENING, WE ARE ALL GOING TO TREMBLE – EVEN THE GODLIEST AMONG US.For 10 years I have been warning about a thousand fires coming to New York City. It will engulf the whole megaplex, including areas of New Jersey and Connecticut. Major cities all across America will experience riots and blazing fires – such as we saw in Watts, Los Angeles, years ago.

There will be riots and fires in cities worldwide. There will be looting – including Times Square, New York City. What we are experiencing now is not a recession, not even a depression. We are under God’s wrath. (For full story, see here.)

So, what do you plan to do about this prophecy? It seems to me that we have three options:

(1) We can be like most Christians and take a wait-and-see posture. You know, if it doesn’t happen, then we can start up blogs decrying Wilkerson as a false prophet. But of course, should the fires begin and the bombs go off, we are in a pickle, right?

(2) We can ask our pastors and other leaders what they think about Wilkerson’s prophecy. After all, these leaders are trained and paid to hear God’s voice for the rest of us, right?

(3) We can seek God for ourselves and ask Him what we should do.

Options (1) and (2) are road maps to disaster. The history of the church is filled with tales of woe about believers who followed these paths.

Option (3) is the only godly and responsible action to take. Don’t wait. Begin today.

Swimming Upstream appears at this blog site on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays. It’s  a little of this and a little of that, all written  to encourage and exhort believers in their Christian jouneys.

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11 responses to “Swimming Upstream: “David Wilkerson’s Prophecy”

  1. “roadmap to disaster” vivid description, you can see, in fact, I’m wondering if i write it down and feel lead to use it in a poem, may I?

    oh- and good call, I like 3, in fact I’ve heard a lot of people talking about this and hadn’t actually heard about it it directly, thank you for the link!!
    cindy

  2. Lar, y’got ish-yooz with preachers in buildings with pews. Is there a possibility that your spiritual progress is blocked in certain areas because you’re lumping true men of god with the robed and jaded ones? Some of the preachers I’ve known I wouldn’t give the time of day. Others I would trust with my very soul.

    As for your obviously slanted choices, #3 is the transparently correct one.

    If all the preachers in all the buildings shouted Wilkerson’s prophecy with fingers wagging, the vast majority would say “poor man, he must be stressed. I wonder what he’ll preach on next week when I’m not here.” It’s the people, not the preachers that are the problem with the body, not the buildings, the system, the music show, or the preachers whose heads may be spinning with what to say next.

    In order to keep the weak coming back, and this is truly unfortunate, preachers don’t throw the whole bale of hay at them often enough. That said, many preachers aren’t bad, just derelict in their duties.

    Have more sympathy in your prayers for them. They need support, not derision.

  3. Larry Who

    janebrock,

    I am for every calling, especially apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors and teachers. I pray for all of them, weak and strong, to become what Christ fully wants them to be. Nothing would make me happier than to see everyone of them walking in miraculous ministries.

    That being said, I am also for every believer walking in the destiny that Christ has ordained for them. I want them to become the royal priesthood and take their place as the perfected ones in Christ.

    And it has just hit me why your dander is up. Option 2, right? Actually, you might be right. I could have said it in a gentler way. Okay, I accept your rebuke.

  4. Larry Who

    cindy,

    Thanks for your comments. Use whatever you can find on my site to write your poems. They are awesome.

  5. Hi Larry,
    again thank you for the link to that post… I guess he could be right, but don’t we all hold the key to that?
    You don’t need to be a prophet to know that someday the world is going to hit a wall… duh… it’s inevitable. but it’s up to us what wall we hit, would you agree? I only find it amusing that people try to predict human nature by the means of God. silliness!
    the only point I might contend a little on is that the church is actually what will set things straight when things truly go awry. It always has in the past. we get off track everytime in lessons never learned. But if you look at disasters past, it’s been the church (by this I mean the people) that clean things up. I agree, sitting and waiting to be spoon fed by a Pastor or religious leader is a roadmap to disaster. but hopefully, within the church these leaders will see their responsibility to be accountable for those that look to that.

    good points Larry. you speak many truths!

  6. Larry Who

    Cindy Hanson,

    A long time ago, I heard a mighty preacher say, “I don’t need a prophet to tell me about that.” He was referring to a problem much like Wilkerson did.

    I thought to myself as the man spoke, “Maybe you do need a prophet on this matter. And maybe you don’t. But I guarantee that you will need a prophet sometime. Why? Because that’s the way the Lord set up the government of the Church – with apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors and teachers in it.

    Anytime the Church becomes unbalanced and leans heavily on one calling (apostle, prophet, evangelist, pastor and teacher) or another, the Church will suffer and saints will not be equipped properly (Eph. 4:9-16)

  7. Hi Larry!! 🙂
    you can just call me Cindy, no Hanson required!

    I couldn’t agree more. the roles of prophets are important… but what they say and how its said is key. The Bible DOES say to beware false prophets. I’ve had dreams of this myself!

    I was always told that if you have to convince people you’re a lady, you’re not…. I expect the same goes for being a prophet.

    What I know about prophets… biblically… they begin with a message of ‘doom’ exposing what is wrong with society. They reveal what God will do, because of the particular sins. Then they offer the message of hope and restoration through a specific action. Repentance. and then there is like what you call… the watch and wait… because there is always truth to what they say.

    I don’t know his history, and if the spirit did tell him about these riots and fires, I certainly appreciate the warning. God ultimately restores. always. He can’t help himself. God has proven Himself here.

    With that said, I don’t think that what Wilkinson said is bad. On the contrary. I used to volunteer with our emergency health corp in our local county here, and our government has been calling for American’s to keep a store of a month’s provisions for years. IT MAKES SENSE! 🙂

    Heh! If he can get people to do it! I say talk all you want!
    I’d offer in there, to keep your land line, mail order your prescriptions, and keep an emergency kit together in one place! The Homeland security has lists on the internet that are fantastic suggestions!

    This just all is sensible in the world we live in.

    There was one thing that bothered me though… he said in there, at the end.. something about it’s up to us to take the warning or leave it… I am paraphrasing again… Those aren’t the words of a prophet. God demands that the prophet share their word the way He gives it… and to not stop.

    I can’t say if he is one or not, but I can say ALL that he said outside the fires ans riots is common sense.

    you DO like conversation, don’t you! 🙂
    cindy

  8. “Anytime the Church becomes unbalanced and leans heavily on one calling (apostle, prophet, evangelist, pastor and teacher) or another, the Church will suffer and saints will not be equipped properly (Eph. 4:9-16)”

    We are a work in progress and have always been so. And a highly flawed work in progress. In these last days the body will be more equipped than since the beginning and that was equipped. Joel’s prophecy will come to life. When the building groups break up, and they will, we will be moving to the next phase–small groups, one on one, meeting under trees, meeting in secret. She will, without the option of the government protected comfort she’s known since 1776, grow strong in her adversity and growing diversity. With that phase will come the components spoken of above in strength and purity.

    For now, the USA branch of the body is a collective couch potato, unaware or unaffected by the warnings or the suffering in places like Sudan.

    It’s going to get interesting. This will require some girding of the loins so to speak and how do we do that when we slough off the prophets of the day without two thoughts?

  9. Cindy,

    I agree one hundred per cent that prophets do not have to mention that they are a prophet. They just need to be one. Soon enough, all will know that he (or she) is one.

    Of course, this is also true of apostles, evangelists, pastors and teachers, also.

    To be honest, Dave Wilkerson has never considered himself to be a prophet. He admits to being a prophetic voice and used by the Lord, but not a prophet.

    It makes sense to stock up on a thirty-day supply of food and the other necessities, but what if a calamity hits? Then what will you do? Eat and drink while your neighbors starve and thirst. Probably, not a good example of loving your neighbors as yourself.

    So, I recommended to Honey that we had better work on our bread and fish multiplying routines or come up with a lot more supplies so that we can take care of our neighbors also.

    I do love conversation. Some days I’m home more than others and I can answer at a faster rate than other days. But no matter what, if you pose a question, I will get back to you.

  10. janebrock,

    “When the building groups break up, and they will, we will be moving to the next phase–small groups, one on one, meeting under trees, meeting in secret…”

    Actually, this statement is the main reason that I have an inner urgency for building home churches NOW. When Wilkerson’s words come to pass on the West Coast – and they will – we will need to have small neighborhood groups in place to be the Bride of Christ offering hope to hurting people.

    If there were not this urgency, then you could have seminars, teachings, conferences on the change-over of the traditional church to a simpler, early church model. It would take years, but it would eventually be done.

    But I believe that we are about to see an emphasis by the Holy Spirit to speed this process up. And of course, everyone loves change!

  11. GAK! Don’t poke your tongue through your cheek. Nobody I know likes change.

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