What if Obama Loses in 2012? What Will Conservative Christians Really Gain?

What if Obama Loses the 2012 election? What will conservative Christians really gain?

Actually, conservative Christians will gain very little and lose much.

“What?” you shout, “How can you make such a dumb statement? Don’t you realize Obama is the worse this and that in the history of America? And then, there are his views on healthcare, Israel, the economy, global warming, abortion, world government and energy; what about these issues? Don’t you care?”

Just for the record, you can check how I felt during the 2008 election cycle by looking back at my posts during that time period. For the most part, you will notice I opposed the Obama/Biden ticket because of their pro-abortion stances.  And if you have time, you can also check out my prophetic mistakes and what I learned from them by clicking here and reading all of  #1 and #3.

Okay, so much for full disclosure on my part. So why am I making such a bold statement that conservative Christians will gain very little and lose much if Obama is defeated?

First: To defeat President Obama in 2012 will take a concentrated effort by conservative Christians. This effort will take huge amounts of time; time we do not have. Plus, it will take millions of dollars of donations; money which could be used elsewhere with greater benefits for the Kingdom of God.

Second: To defeat President Obama in 2012 will mean a dirty-dog, down-in-the-trenches, in-your-face battle between the different factions of the Body of Christ which will only add more division to the Body. A division – we Christians can not afford at this time in America. (Here’s the demographics for 2008, which are basically the same as 2004 and probably won’t change much for 2012.)

What will we gain if Obama is defeated? A pat on the back from fellow conservative Christians who agree with us, but little else. You see, the damage to our economy and our nation will already have been done and will take years to reverse. Years – we will not have.

Why am I so pessimistic about our government and nation? America is sliding down a greasy slope into a bloody terrorist war which will occur here on our home-front. A terrorist war which we are not prepared for, cannot stop and one which our government will be of limited help for us.

Our only hope is for a great number of American Christians to be able to live as mature citizens of the Kingdom of God when the heavy terrorists’ attacks strike us, especially here on the West Coast. These mature kingdom citizens will have to help their neighbors and others, during the dismal days awaiting our nation.

But sadly, the following scripture describes most of us American Christians:

...”How hard it is for those who are wealthy to enter the kingdom of God! For it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God. (Luke 18:24-25)

We Americans are wealthy and do not know much about the kingdom of God or our citizen benefits. At best, we know how to sit in pews and get along with other Christians who think exactly like us.  So how can we possibly change ourselves?

The things that are impossible with people are possible with God.” (Luke 18: 27)

I believe we still have time to change and prepare for the upcoming terrorist strikes, but it will take a total commitment on our parts to learn about the kingdom of God and unlearn most of our present teachings. This undertaking will not have the luxury of wasting time for two years, trying to defeat President Obama.

We need to make up our minds now.


Filed under Christianity, Church, Gifts of the Spirit, Kingdom of God, Prophecy, spiritual warfare

10 responses to “What if Obama Loses in 2012? What Will Conservative Christians Really Gain?

  1. Thank you. This makes much sense to me, through His Spirit.

  2. Debbie,

    Thanks. It’s been months since I’ve written on this site.

  3. I understand completely the point you are making, Larry, but I still hold to the saying that tyranny has its start when good men do nothing. If Obama wins, more unborn babies will die; more perversion of God’s laws will increase; and more people will be led away from the truth. Until Christ comes (which in my heart I know is very soon) we must keep doing his work. We need to not only pray for godly leaders, we must do what we can to get them elected. Of course, this is just my opinion. Good to see you back.

  4. Marianne,

    “All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.” (Edmund Burke)

    Sadly, babies will continue dying whether Obama wins or not in 2012 because of the new Supreme Court additions. For change to come judicially, two of the liberal justices have to retire and be replaced with conservative ones. This might have happened if John McCain had won, but he lost and now it won’t happen for a long while.

    As far as perversion of God’s laws, it seems to happen with both parties, just a little slower with the Republicans…maybe.

    I no longer have faith in the political system. It’s built on compromise and backroom deals, and even if change could happen, it would take years, which I don’t believe we have.

    As soon as the terrorist bombs start exploding, our nation will have major problems. There will be bodies everywhere. Businesses will shut down; work stoppages; food supply problems; hospital shortages; and the list is endless.

    So, Christians have to make a big decision:

    Start working on building the kingdom of God, which means reaching across the spiritual boundaries to every stream of Christians, including liberal, progressive, social justice, peace churches, pentecostal, charismatic, home churches, traditional, evangelical, emergent, snake handlers and whoever and build the kingdom of God. Because we need everyone working together. Somehow, we have to find a way to love each other and get along.

    Or we can continue doing what we have done since 1979, when Jerry Falwell founded the Moral Majority. Check out how well this has worked.

    For me, there is only one choice. But this does not mean that we should quit praying for our leaders which the Bible clearly tells us to do. It just means that the election in 2012 is not as big a deal anymore.

    It’s good to hear from you and I enjoy your fiery comments as always. God bless you.

  5. I have always struggled with politics. Felt guilty because I just couldn’t be that involved . . .that passionate about it. This last year as I started blogging, what you described about reaching across boundaries . . .that is what it feels like He is asking me to do. Not to get caught up in who’s right about what and who’s wrong . . .just to focus on Him, the common denominator, as a way to connect and build faith. It’s okay when someone disagrees with me. I find something about them, about what they are saying that I can encourage them in. I can encourage them in Jesus. Sorry . . .babbling here! God bless you and thanks again for helping us understand what you are saying and why.

  6. Debbie,

    Since 2008, I’ve undergone a major change so that I now agree with Paul when he said, “I have made myself to be all things to all men so that by all means I might save some.”

    So, somehow, I need to find a way to hook in with all streams of Christianity.

    It’s okay to babble on my site.

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  8. Larry,
    I agree with much you are saying here with only one caveat. The belief that political, as in one party or another, change was ever going to bring any real change of heart was always a misnomer. I believe that the body of Messiah has wasted most of the past 30 or more years in trying to bring about change through elections rather than conversions.
    Government, by it’s nature is intrinsically evil as it can only enforce it’s edicts by use of violence. We, on the other hand, are to win our enemies with the love of Yahshua. We are never told to be involved in trying to bring change to governments or even society but to one person at a time as we touch them with His love.
    Whether the violence that is coming is borne of some Islamic terror or our own government turning against the folks in the street when they realize they have been duped matters little in the long run. What does matter is how we as believers respond to the challenges that will come as we see the breakdown of society.

  9. PS glad to see you back here. I wondered if you were OK.

  10. ephraiyim,

    Thanks for your comments.

    Throughout history, God has at times worked through governments to bring godly change to nations. George Wilberforce is a prime example of how one man and his persistence and divine anointing removed slavery from Great Britain and its empire. In the Old Testament, God used three kings (Cyrus, Darius and Artxerxes) and their governments to restore Israel to their promised land.

    So, whether or not God uses governments, is really up to Him. And also, God may only work on a government through whatever means He chooses for a season before He attempts a different avenue. This again is His choice.

    Am I okay? Yes, I’ve been busy writing on my other website at: http://proph101.wordpress.com/

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