Pastor Jim asked me to meet him for lunch at a Des Moines Burger King in hopes we could work out our disagreements about prophesying. I looked forward to working out our issues.
We both ordered burgers and sat outside at a metal table. Jim explained his feelings in between bites.
“If you attend the school of prophecy and submit yourself under my pastoral authority, I will release you into fulltime ministry when the Lord tells me you’re ready,” he said.
“So, you want me to submit myself under your authority until the Lord speaks to you, right?”
“Yes, that’s basically it.”
“What if you don’t hear the Lord’s voice for my life and calling?”
“I hadn’t thought of that.”
“That’s a big deal to me, because my calling stands before Jesus, not you. It’s my responsibility to hear His voice, not yours,” I said.
I ended up doing what was best for both of us by leaving the Des Moines Vineyard Church. We blessed each other and hugged before parting.
(An excerpt from my memoir, The Hunt for Larry Who, an Amazon eBook.)
One of the biggest hindrances to hearing the voice of God is that we allow someone else to do it for us. You see, it doesn’t matter if an apostle, prophet, evangelist, pastor, teacher, elder, deacon, or Grand Poobah thinks that he has heard the voice of God for us, we must still hear His voice for ourselves. It’s part of our new birthright in Christ to do so.
An infamous example of allowing a leader to usurp believers’ positions of hearing the voice of God for themselves was Jim Jones and the Peoples Temple. Over 900 members committed suicide on November 18, 1978, because of Jones’ belief that he heard God’s voice for everyone.
Yes, Jim Jones is a very extreme example, but according to scripture, there is only One who is allowed between us and God:
For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus (1 Timothy 2:5)
What are other problems for hearing God’s voice for ourselves?
(Continued in Part 4)
Sadly, in Christianity one doesn’t have to be anything like a Jim Jones and yet still spiritually smother his people. Jeremiah 5:31 speaks today as it did in days past. Until we begin to hate “to have it so” the church cannot be the witness it ought to be.
Roger,
I agree, but I know it’s hard to get people to change. Too many years of just sitting and sitting.
I am so glad you were able to hear God and walk away from that church and the pastor’s plans for you., so you could follow His plans for you . God bless!
Debbie,
I wonder how many of us if we heard the Lord’s voice would do the same. I would guess the numbers are huge! God bless you.