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Ravi Zacharias on the Christian View of Homosexuality

 

The video is 11 minutes and 21 seconds long. It is well-worth listening to, but for those who would rather read than listen, I have written out his dialog:

Moderator:  How do you respond to unbelievers who say Christians are hateful toward people who support lifestyles that are not according to the precepts of our faith?

Zacharias:Very important question. I would be a dishonest person if I told you I don’t think about that question or worry about it. In fact, our speakers’ team has sat around a table and asked, “How do we deal with this question, the trying social issue of our time.” And even if the word is not used in the question – the homosexual lifestyle and all that has come about in our lifetime. How should Christians deal with it?

Let me give you three panels for an answer on this, okay?

The first panel is the logical or sociological problem. The second panel is the theological problem. The third panel is the relational problem – how do you communicate it.

So, first, let’s take the sociological issue here. What is the problem now? We talk about tolerance.

I was speaking at a prestigious university and someone walked to the microphone and asked this same question about homosexuality.

I said to this person, “I will be glad to answer your question if you first answer mine. What kind of culture are we living in right now? You have to define it for me.

“I see three cultures in relation to absolute.

“The first culture is called a Theonomous culture where the Law of God is so embedded in our hearts that we all think in the same way.

“Once, upon a time, we talked about the natural law as in “we believe these truths to be self-evident. The early framers believed in the natural law. We don’t believe in natural law anymore nor do we believe in the Theonomous culture in the West.

“So, what’s the second culture?

“It’s a heteronomous culture. This means that the mainstream of a culture is dictated to by the top or its leaders. If you look at Marxism in secular terms, it is a heteronomous culture with the handful at the top controlling the masses. If you look at Islam, it is a heteronomous culture. The mullahs or sheiks or ayatollahs at the top tell the masses when they can eat, what they must wear, who they can be seen with and so forth. It is a heteronomous culture with the few at the top dictating to the masses below them.

“So I looked at the questioner and I asked, ‘Are we a Theonomous culture?’ He said, ‘No.’ ‘Are we a heteronomous culture?’ He said, ‘No.’

“That leaves with us the third which is an autonomous culture, which means each person dictates their own moral prerogatives. So, I asked him, ‘Are we an autonomous culture?’ He said, ‘Yes.’

“Okay, if we are an autonomous culture and I answer your question, are you going to give me the privilege of my autonomy, too? Or as soon as you disagree with my answer, will you switch to a heteronomous mode and dictate for me what I must believe as well?”

That is the sociological dilemma.

If A disagrees with B, A wants to enforce his principles on B. Not only that, B wants to do the same to A. So there is a mutual autocracy being sought here.

But it will never be consistent in a culture that is neither Theonomous or heteronomous because everyone has their own autonomy. That’s the sociological issue.

Now, the theological issue.

Years ago, I did some forums at Indiana University. At one, a reporter came and asked if she could film some of our program that night. I said yes. She only planned to stay for a part of the program, but ended up staying for all of it, even the question and answer period afterward. She ended up walking with me back to my lodging on campus.

The reporter asked, “I have a question for you.”

“Is this an on-the-record question or an off-the-record one,” I replied.

She said, “No this is just for me. It will not appear in print.”

“Okay,” I said. “Go ahead and ask.”

She said, “I have a problem with Christianity. Christians are generally against racism, but when it comes to homosexuality, they discriminate against the homosexual. How do you explain that?”

“I find your comments so interesting,” I said. “In the first part of your question, it’s an -ism you’re talking about. In the second part of the question, you particularize it with an individual. That fascinates me.

“The reason we believe ethnic discrimination is wrong is because the race and ethnicity of a person is sacred. You do not violate a person’s race or ethnicity. It’s a sacred gift.

“And the reason we believe in an absoluteness to sexuality is that we believe sexuality is sacred. You will help me better understand your question if you tell me why you treat racism as sacred and do not do the same for sexuality.

She replied, “I never thought about it in those terms.”

Here’s what I want to say to everyone: marriage as God has given it to us is the most sacred relationship you will ever enter. Love is given one word in the English but it has four words in the Greek: agape, philio, storge and eros. Agape is God’s love. Philio is friendship or brotherly love. Storge is protective or parental love. Eros is romantic love.

Marriage is the only one that pulls these four loves together. And if you take agape out of this mix, eros is gone. Romantic love will become redefined.

For believers, the Bible gives the sacredness of marriage as God gives Christ to the church, the bridegroom and the bride. In the sacredness of the beauty of that consummate relationship between a man and a woman in the singular marital vow: “I do and I will…” When you say I do to the one, you say I don’t to all of the others. When you say I will to one, you say I won’t to the others.

Any departure from this beauty and sacredness of the full union of love is against the biblical notion of what it really means to be married. Just to take one behavior and make it look like it is aberrant is not right. All departures from this model of a man and woman are not right in the sight of God.

The theological position is a consummate relationship between a man and a woman in the procreative act and the sacredness and paying each other the ultimate compliment of taking each other at his or her word.

Theologically, we are put in a conundrum. So, how do we deal with it? This is the hard part.

I accept people with a love and genuineness on anything if their views are different than mine. I have learned to love humanity. I can put my arm around a person who has a different view on marriage.

God gives us the most sacred gift: the prerogative of choice. But God does not give us the privilege of determining a different outcome of what the choice will entail for us . Consequences are bound to the choice.

That brings us back to the Book of Genesis 4:7, where it says, “If you do what is right, you will be accepted, but if you don’t, sin crouches at the door and desires to have you.”

When I look at the sacredness of marriage, any change from the biblical point of view is a departure from the biblical mandate. But at the same time, the Bible commands us to love even those we disagree with. Our responsibility as a church is to never to hate individuals. Our privilege is to love. Only God can change the heart of a person and He is the ultimate judge. Let us be light, salt and learn to love one another and let God be the judge. We can make errors and He does not.

 

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Prayers for LGBT Believers (5/29/2018)

The above almost six-minute video is from Church United and was produced as a tool to stop AB 2943 from becoming law in California. This proposed law would ban helping anyone with unwanted same-sex desires or gender confusion. So far, AB 2943 has passed the California Assembly by a lop-sided vote and will soon be voted upon in the California Senate.

The video shows five men and two women relating their journeys out of their LGBT lifestyles. All of their remarks touched my heart with the challenges they faced. Here are a few words gleaned from their testimonies:

Woman #1: “I heard the Lord say to me in His still small voice, “Choose,” and it wasn’t an easy choice. It was the hardest choice I have ever made…”

Woman #2: “I lived and loved being a lesbian. I felt like I was born that way. It seemed to explain why I was the way I was…A seventeen year-old boy approached me with what he called a word from the Lord. What he said to me was a direct answer to something I had been praying about for years.  Getting this answer to my prayer caused me to question whether I knew God. So, I picked up a Bible and began highlighting every passage that described the character of God. I discovered this amazing God that was so beautiful and so excellent. I couldn’t think of withholding myself from Him.

Man #1: “My parents and I cried for two hours. They told me how much they loved me no matter what. They asked me how they could help. I wanted help wherever I could get it. They found a Christian counselor. I had no promise that I would ever change but I had support from the counselor and my parents that I was loved and I was safe.”

Man #2: “God can restore the years the locusts have eaten. It is absolutely amazing.”

If you have the time, the six-minute video is well-worth watching.

My prayer today:

Lord, help us to be Your hands outreached to the LGBT community and help us to yield to Your loving Spirit to be Your servants to them.

What do you think and has the Lord spoken to you today?

Join with me on Tuesdays to fast and pray for LGBT believers.

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Prayer for LGBT Believers (5/8/2018)

How would you answer this question? Which group is the smallest, most rejected minority in our country?

African-Americans have certainly suffered terribly through our history…Perhaps it is Native Americans?…What about the LGBT community?…

Ironically, the group that can lay claim to being the smallest and most rejected minority in America today once was part of the LGBT community. They once identified as gay or lesbian or bisexual or transgender, but they no longer do. Today, they are “ex-gay” or “ex-trans.”

Their numbers are very small, since they came out of a small community to start with. And it is only a small percentage of that small group who make a break with the rest of the LGBT community.

Most of them make that break because of their religious faith, often newly found.

(Smallest and Most Rejected Minority in America by Dr. Michael Brown, columnist at WND.com. The entire column can be seen here.)

My prayer today:

Lord, help us not despise the day of small beginnings in seeing people delivered from LGBT lifestyles, but help us to increase our faith and efforts, knowing that You came to set the captives free and destroy the works of the Devil. (Based on   Zechariah 4:10, Luke 4:10 and 1 John 3:8)

What do you think and has the Lord spoken to you today?

Join with me on Tuesdays to fast and pray for LGBT believers.

 

 

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Prayers for LGBT Believers (5/1/2018)

 

Francis Chan talking on homosexuality:

“The reason gays have a problem with the church is that we treat their sin as so much worse than the others. We will excommunicate people for homosexuality but not for divorce. And I do it for divorce. Divorce is a terrible sin in the sight of God…

“It’s also what  I said about singleness. This isn’t about sexuality as much as it is about surrendering to the Kingdom and being a person about the Kingdom. Look, if I’m single for the rest of my life, that’s not the biggest thing in my life. It’s not my sexuality or my sexual urges which define who I am.

“I find my identity — are you kidding me? I can actually speak to God. I can be His servant. I’m going to be with Him forever. Where’s my identity found in?

“A lot of these sin issues are secondary. The bottom line – let’s just start here. Whatever issues you are dealing with today…Are you willing to surrender to God? No matter what He says. What if He said in this book [Bible] that Chinese people have to stand on their heads? Just an example, but I will try to stand on my head. He’s God! What if He said Chinese people don’t get to marry? He’s God. I don’t like that but I’m going to surrender to that because I understand the difference between a Creator and a created being. So whatever!

“And before we get to what this book [Bible] actually says, I have to say, ‘Will you surrender? If you disagree with God on an issue, would you still submit to Him?’ I really believe that is the core issue here.

“Then if so, because that’s the type of person I want to be also, let’s look at this book [Bible] together. A lot of following Jesus is about denying yourself and pick up your cross and follow Me. A lot of this is about beating your body and making it your slave. It’s about not doing the things you very much want to do. That’s the core issue.

“Two guys walking in, holding hands. That’s not the first thing I’d address. I really think we jump to that too quickly, rather than saying, ‘At the core of your being, do you believe in a Creator and if He is your Creator, would you surrender to whatever He asks for you to do? Maybe I’m wrong on this thing. Let’s study together and then you tell me.

“From my personal understanding of this book [Bible], it [homosexuality] appears to be a sin to me. But if you study it and your best personal conclusion is that it is not. Help me understand that from scripture and not from reasoning. Because we all reason and we all fight for the things we want.” (See full video here.)

My prayer today:

Lord, help American Christians to follow Your example of reasoning together with LGBT believers, allowing You to be Lord and us to be Your flawed disciples. (Based on Isaiah 1:18)

What do you think and has the Lord spoken to you today?

Join with me on Tuesdays to fast and pray for LGBT believers.

 

 

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LGBT Battle: Why Isn’t God Helping Christians?

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My new weekly column entitled, “LGBT Battle: Why Isn’t God Helping Christians,”can be read by clicking here.

If you have an iPhone or iPad, you can perhaps read it better by using the Chrome browser rather than Safari. Also, you can go to the app store and download a free app called: WND.

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Prayers for LGBT Believers

 

Most believers, including me, would love to have a LGBT person give his or her life to the Lord and presto! Every LGBT desire would instantly be removed from the person’s life.

Yet, it seldom works that way!

But now God has set the members, each one of them, in the body [of Christ] just as He pleased… In fact, some parts of the body that seem weakest and least important are actually the most necessary. (1 Corinthians 12:18, 23)

My prayer today:

Lord, help the Body of Christ to care for each member as You do because he or she is necessary and if one member suffers, help us all to suffer with them so that there is no division in the Body. (Based on 1 Corinthians 12:25-26)

What do you think and has the Lord spoken to you today?

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Will God ‘Show Up’ in Masterpiece Cakeshop Case?

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My new weekly column entitled, Will God ‘Show Up’ in Masterpiece Cakeshop Case,” can be read by clicking here.

If you have an iPhone or iPad, you can sometimes read it better by using the Chrome browser rather than Safari. Also, you can go to the app store and download a free app called: WND.

 

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